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Temple of Heaven
« on: Jul. 31, 2012 08:31 AM »
I stopped in China to get some shots of the temple on my way to the Illuminations meet at Pixelmania last October and noticed that the stars were visible in my shot, so I decided to try a star trail.  Since I only had 30 minutes, the trails aren't very long, but I like how they turned out.


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Re: Temple of Heaven
« Reply #1 on: Jul. 31, 2012 09:06 AM »
Very cool!  Totally novice question, with the exposure being 30 minutes, how did you keep the Temple and all not blown out?  Do you use a "special blacked out" filter?  I assume a ND filter, but at what level?
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« Reply #2 on: Jul. 31, 2012 09:23 AM »
Thanks John!

with the exposure being 30 minutes, how did you keep the Temple and all not blown out? 

Its actually not a continuous 30min exposure.  Unlike star trails on film (which had its own problems) digital sensors can't handle exposures of that length without overheating and creating extra noise.  So, the solution is to create a series of many shorter exposures and then stack them.  I didn't bring the intevelometer remote with me on that trip, so after taking a correctly exposed shot of the temple, I set the camera for a 30s exposure and locked the remote button so it fired continuously.

Stacking them is easy.  There's a free program called Startrails that will automatically stack the shots for you if you're working with JPEGs.  I was working with the raw files to bring out some of the shadows in the temple, so I ended up stacking them by hand in Photoshop.  I placed all of the star trail shots on individual layers and changed the layer blending from "normal" to "lighten".  Next I added the temple shot to the top of the stack and masked out the sky to allow the stars to show through without allowing the overexposed temple to show through.

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Re: Temple of Heaven
« Reply #3 on: Jul. 31, 2012 10:27 AM »
Thanks John!

Its actually not a continuous 30min exposure.  Unlike star trails on film (which had its own problems) digital sensors can't handle exposures of that length without overheating and creating extra noise.  So, the solution is to create a series of many shorter exposures and then stack them.  I didn't bring the intevelometer remote with me on that trip, so after taking a correctly exposed shot of the temple, I set the camera for a 30s exposure and locked the remote button so it fired continuously.

Stacking them is easy.  There's a free program called Startrails that will automatically stack the shots for you if you're working with JPEGs.  I was working with the raw files to bring out some of the shadows in the temple, so I ended up stacking them by hand in Photoshop.  I placed all of the star trail shots on individual layers and changed the layer blending from "normal" to "lighten".  Next I added the temple shot to the top of the stack and masked out the sky to allow the stars to show through without allowing the overexposed temple to show through.

Wow!  It is explainations like this that excites me to learn more and reminds me that there is so much to learn.  Thanks for that explaination.

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Re: Temple of Heaven
« Reply #4 on: Jul. 31, 2012 10:58 AM »
Very cool idea - star trails at Disney - never would have thunk it!  Of course, you have some serious commitment to do this in the summer - I couldn't stand still in that heat taking 30 minutes of exposures - I'm usually set - shoot - move on, and find air conditioning during the summer.
 
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Re: Temple of Heaven
« Reply #5 on: Jul. 31, 2012 12:20 PM »
Thanks for that explaination.


Any time.  If you want to learn more about star trails, I recommend visiting Moose Peterson's site.  This post has a link to a PDF that he created on star trails:  http://www.moosepeterson.com/blog/2007/09/28/heres-why-you-want-extended-092807/

Moose also talks about a stacking script for Photoshop that Russell Brown wrote that works well for star trails.  I forgot about that script since I haven't tried it out yet.

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« Reply #6 on: Aug. 01, 2012 04:01 AM »
Thanks!  Will take a look!


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« Reply #7 on: Aug. 01, 2012 01:03 PM »
Nice work.  And thanks for the PS tips.  Sounds like a good project for Space Mountain/Mission Space.
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« Reply #8 on: Aug. 01, 2012 04:51 PM »
Thanks, Peter! 

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Re: Temple of Heaven
« Reply #9 on: Aug. 02, 2012 12:27 AM »
Michael, what a great shot and tutorial. I need to learn how to do star trails.

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« Reply #10 on: Aug. 02, 2012 01:49 PM »
Nice job Michael & excellent explanation. Thanks for sharing this info with everyone. I will definitely take a look at this technique.
  

    
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Re: Temple of Heaven
« Reply #11 on: Aug. 03, 2012 08:16 AM »
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